Schedule A, Subdivision VIII, paragraph 5, of positions excepted from examination under the civil service rules is amended to read as follows: 5. In the Indian Service at large: (a) Indians employed as disciplinarians, and in minor positions such as judge, chief of police, police private, interpreter, assistant and weaver; (b) Special commissioners to negotiate with Indians, as the necessity for their employment may arise; (c) One financial clerk at each Indian agency to act as agent during the absence or disability of the agent; (d) Physicians employed in the Indian Service and receiving not more than $1200 per annum salary, who may lawfully perform their official duties in connection with their private practice, such employment, however, to be subject to the approval of the Commission; (e) Superintendents of livestock, stockmen, stock detectives, and line riders; (f) Special officers to assist in the suppression of the liquor traffic in the Indian Service and among the natives in Alaska; (g) Superintendent of Indian Insane Asylum, Canton, South Dakota; (h) Special agent for the Chippewa Indians of Lake Superior; (i) One Indian trade supervisor; (j) All employees of the Neopit Lumber Mills on the Menominee Indian Reservation in Wisconsin; (k) Attendants employed at hospitals and sanatoria upon the duties of practical nurse, matron, assistant matron, female laborer, assistant, laundress, seamstress, housekeeper, and laborers working inside in connection with cleaning and the care of patients, when, in the opinion of the Commission, it is not expedient to make appointment upon competitive examination. Paragraphs 6, 7, 8, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 26 of said Subdivision VIII are revoked, being included in the several clauses of amended paragraph 5. Attendants in clause (k) are newly excepted to further the development of the hospital organization in the Indian Service along the lines of other Federal hospitals. HERBERT HOOVER The White House, October 28, 1929.
Executive Order 5213—Amending Schedule A, Subdivision VIII of the Civil Service Rules
Executive Brief • At a Glance
Schedule A, Subdivision VIII, paragraph 5, of positions excepted from examination under the civil service rules is amended to read as follows: 5.
Plain-English Translation & Framers' Constitutional Analysis
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Signed by President Herbert Hoover on October 28, 1929, this order concerns Amending Schedule A, Subdivision VIII of the Civil Service Rules. Schedule A, Subdivision VIII, paragraph 5, of positions excepted from examination under the civil service rules is amended to read as follows: 5. In the Indian Service at large: (a) Indians employed as disciplinarians, and in minor positions such as judge, chief of police, police private, interpreter, assistant and weaver; (b) Special commissioners to negotiate with Indians, as the necessity for their employment…
Key Directives & Operative Actions
Schedule A, Subdivision VIII, paragraph 5, of positions excepted from examination under the civil service rules is amended to read as follows: 5.
Paragraphs 6, 7, 8, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 26 of said Subdivision VIII are revoked, being included in the several clauses of amended paragraph 5.
Constitutional & Societal Entities Impacted
Policy Areas & Topics
The Framers' Constitutional Council
1787 PrismEvaluating this order against the constitutional debates of 1787 and the limits of Article II executive power.
"When the President acts in absence of either a congressional grant or denial of authority, he can only rely upon his own independent powers, but there is a zone of twilight in which he and Congress may have concurrent authority."
James Madison
Separation of Powers & Legislative Primacy
"Power is of an encroaching nature, and it ought to be effectually restrained from passing the limits assigned to it." — Federalist No. 48 (1788)
Madison would view this order with watchful scrutiny. Operating in the 'Zone of Twilight' where Congress is silent, each such directive establishes an administrative precedent that steadily expands the executive perimeter at the expense of legislative primacy.
Alexander Hamilton
The Energetic Executive & Unified Command
"A feeble Executive implies a feeble execution of the government; and a government ill executed, whatever it may be in theory, must be, in practice, a bad government." — Federalist No. 70 (1788)
Hamilton would view this directive as the natural and indispensable functioning of administrative leadership. Without the power to coordinate agencies, manage personnel, and resolve operational ambiguities, the modern presidency would be reduced to an impotent figurehead.
George Mason
Bill of Rights, Due Process & 10th Amendment
"The president will be surrounded by flatterers and sycophants... and the great powers of the executive will gradually absorb the liberties of the people." — Cato IV (Anti-Federalist, 1787)
The Anti-Federalist prism advises continuous democratic vigilance. Even routine administrative directives aggregate centralized federal power away from town halls and state assemblies toward a distant executive apparatus.
Five Measurable "Constitutional Friction" Dimensions
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Legislative Encroachment & Purse
Administers commerce or fiscal programs requiring ongoing statutory delegation and legislative oversight.
Executive Scope & Faithfulness
Directs internal executive branch machinery, agency workflows, and federal personnel.
Federalism & State Sovereignty
Confined strictly to internal federal jurisdiction, federal property, or direct military command.
Due Process & Individual Rights
Focuses on internal governmental operations with no direct impairment of private rights or property.
Youngstown Jacksonian Tier
The order relies on inherent Article II executive discretion, civil service management, or foreign diplomacy where Congress has neither expressly approved nor prohibited action.
This order operates within Justice Jackson’s Zone of Twilight, resting upon concurrent presidential authority or congressional silence.
Scholarly & Legal Citations
Exec. Order No. 5213 (Oct. 28, 1929), https://executiveordersarchive.org/orders/app-executive-order-5213-amending-schedule-subdivision-viii-the-civil-service-rules.